Envision Your Future – Elisabeth Galperin
[00:00:00] Hey, friends, today it is my pleasure to interview Elizabeth Galperin. She is the owner of Peak Production Coaching. Not only is she a speaker and a coach, but she’s a sought after trainer. She’s passionate about helping professionals perform at their peak and reach their potential. She sounds like someone like me.
[00:00:18] That’s what I do too. And so we’re already friends. We spent time talking beforehand and it’s like we have some things in common.
[00:00:25] So Elizabeth, something you said, ~ we often get stuck in our own stories and limiting beliefs, especially those around disorganization and overwhelm.
[00:00:35] So welcome and let’s start there.
[00:00:38] Elisabeth: Okay. Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited to have this conversation with you.
[00:00:43] Miriam: Great. Why don’t you give me a little bit of an idea of what you mean by limiting belief, and then let’s talk about some ways to counteract those, or at least address them.
[00:00:56] Limiting Belief
[00:00:56] Elisabeth: Okay, fantastic. So when I meet with brand new people that I’m telling, you know what I do, or in my very first couple of sessions with a client, the I, you know, it very quickly turns to, what’s not been working right, and why am I feeling overwhelmed, or why am I feeling disorganized? Why am I, you know, worried about growing my business?
[00:01:20] And what I hear from clients, and I mean, It’s varied, but quite often, uh, it has the, the preface of I’ve always been, or I’ve never been, so, you know, I’ve always been so terrible managing my time or I’ve always been, you know, in my family I was always the kid who could never pay attention. I hear very early on in the relationship with, with individuals part of that identity.
[00:01:52] And you and I know, and, and even they know we can all change. Doesn’t matter how old we are, right? But oftentimes we sit in that old identity and it creates a limitation that we may or may not be aware of.
[00:02:07] And so in my work with clients, you know, one of the very first things that we talk about is, well, that’s maybe who you.
[00:02:16] Have been or who you identified with, but who is it that you want to be and want to become and to, to kind of dispel the belief that, um, that’s unachievable. I think the. Not everyone is familiar with that term of limiting belief, right? But it’s old identity, new identity, and part of my role is to help bridge that gap and also give my clients the confidence that they can bridge that gap, whether they’ve been, you know, we’ve been around for 20 years, or 40 years, or 60 years, right?
[00:02:52] We can always change.
[00:02:54] Miriam: Sure. I, I agree with you on just how this plays out in people’s lives, and I think that, one of the things. I don’t hear talked about much with limiting beliefs is as you’re going through that identity transformation, the other person struggles to accept that new identity.
[00:03:14] Before we had gotten on, and we’re talking about this, I asked you about your name and did you wanna be called Liz or Beth or Elizabeth? And you said, I used to be called Beth, but I want to be called Elizabeth. And that is such a small little way of saying, but. Big in its ramifications. This is who I was.
[00:03:33] This is who I am now, and I bet you anything, you had a ton of people who struggled to make that switch and they called you the old thing until they switched to the new thing.
[00:03:44] Yes. Yes. Can you talk a little bit about how you see that for your clients as they’re trying to make this identity shift and change and the other people are kind of trying to put them back in that other space?
[00:03:57] Not, not in a mean way it’s just habit.
[00:04:00] Elisabeth: Yeah. Right. And it’s comfortable, right? Yes. I mean, you know, most humans do like things to stay the same, and particularly the way we view a loved one, a family member, a partner, a business partner. So you’re right. You know. I, I talk a lot with my clients about the importance of communication.
[00:04:21] Clearly as a coach and and a client, we have to be doing a lot of communication. But I also make sure that we figure out who, who is in your sphere that we need to talk to about the changes you’re making and how those individuals can support you, um, and how can you support them. So my background is actually, The field of communication.
[00:04:44] I was a speech language therapist in my first career, and you know, the, the more I get into, I mean, I’ve been, I’ve been in my, my own business now for 15 years. But I continue to see how communication with others is such an important factor when it comes to changing our own habits, adopting new strategies, trying to, you know, run your business differently.
[00:05:06] Putting systems in place. There’s always some element of who are we communicating to about it? How are we communicating with them, and how does our change impact those around us? So I mean, it’s you’re, you’re hitting the nail on the head in terms of any time that we’re changing something small or big , we have to not just think about how do we want to respond?
[00:05:33] And behave differently, but how are we going to need to support the people around us or ask for the support of people around us so that we can make that change and, and have the support and the acceptance of it.
[00:05:46] Miriam: Sure. Can you give an example, or I should say, are you willing to give an example from your own life where you had a limiting belief?
[00:05:55] I assume there was this process of, you didn’t know it was there then you knew it was there, but you didn’t do anything about it. Then you started to do something about it, but it probably went poorly and then you accomplished it. Give me an idea, like with a practical, you know, boots on the ground example.
[00:06:14] Public Speaking
[00:06:14] Elisabeth: Okay, so I’ve got a great one for you. So I used to be, I won’t quite say deathly afraid, but the idea of public speaking. Was something that sounded miserable to me. I was the student in college that avoided taking a public speaking class. It’s interesting as I. You know, as I went through and started my first profession, I was, I was an educator and a teacher, but it was more about being with kids.
[00:06:44] And it was in a smaller, it was in a smaller setting and smaller role, but the idea of getting up in front of a group of peers or professionals, was something that terrified me. So in the first five years or so of my career, my identity and limiting belief was, I’m afraid of public speaking and I’m terrible at.
[00:07:04] So that was anytime someone would ask, Hey, do you want to be our spokesperson? Hey, do you wanna get up and, you know, lead this discussion? My limiting belief was, oh no, I’m terrible at that. Oh no, I’m afraid of that. Well, when I, when I was in, I. Used to work in the public schools and I took a position at a private practice being a speech language therapist, and part of my role there was representing the practice and helping to build our clientele.
[00:07:34] So I had to start wearing a sales hat and that required me to start talking to groups of educators and parents. I was extremely uncomfortable doing so, but I also didn’t wanna tell my boss no. Cause I’m a people pleaser by nature. So even though I had this belief that I’m terrible at speaking in front of an audience and you know, I, my face would get all red and I’d get sweaty and, you know, all the terrible things that you experience.
[00:08:05] But I, I had to get comfortable being uncomfortable and. You know, after, I don’t know, let’s say five or six times, I started getting feedback that you did a great job up there. We loved your presentation, and so it took other people’s perspective for me to start to think, well, maybe I’m actually not a terrible speaker, public speaker.
[00:08:27] I still am not comfortable, but I’m at least getting feedback from other people that maybe I’m not terrible, maybe I am somewhat good at this. And just through the practice of. Being uncomfortable and pushing through it anyways, helped me turn the, the, the tide. And now if you ask me what’s one of my favorite things that I do in my business, it’s when I get to speak in front of a room full of people and do a workshop or a training.
Energized by People
[00:08:52] So complete 180. But you know, that’s over a span of, of several years and it really re it. Being willing to step into it and know that I could get to the other side of it if I practiced and if I, took the feedback from other people and, and allowed that to be the message versus my own internal message of, you’re not good at this
[00:09:16] Yeah. So that, that’s a significant one.
[00:09:18] Miriam: Yeah, no, I can totally tell, and I can tell by the way you’re talking about it, that when you get to be in front of people now, it energizes you and it does. I wonder how many of our listeners have these hidden genius spaces within them that they are. Unaware of, or they are like on the other side of the coin thinking I’m no good at that, or I can’t do that.
[00:09:42] I was talking about limiting beliefs on a podcast earlier today that where I was being interviewed and we were, we were just discussing about how the space in your brain is feeding you- it’s almost like a ticker tape just feeding you this, these messages constantly and so many people do not know.
[00:10:03] Just because it goes through your brain doesn’t mean it’s true.
Tips on Changing Mindset
[00:10:07] Elisabeth: Right, right. You may have a choice to believe to, to have the thought and choose to continue with that thought or to change the thought.
[00:10:18] I certainly learned that, you know, through throughout, particularly becoming a, a business owner.
[00:10:24] An entrepreneur. But you’re right. Just because the thought exists doesn’t mean that we have to believe it or allow it to, to hang around.
[00:10:32] Miriam: Right. What would you say if you were giving some practical tips on people changing their thoughts because everybody says, oh, you know, you need to change your thinking or your mindset.
[00:10:44] Feels sometimes a little abstract.
[00:10:47] What would you say are some concrete ways to stop that thinking in your head?.
[00:10:54] Journaling Your Thoughts
[00:10:54] Elisabeth: I do firmly believe in just the act of journaling and writing and taking a thought and making it concrete on paper.
[00:11:02] I really love I am statements so. In, in my previous example, I am a competent and, um, I’m a competent speaker, you know, and just writing it and, and feeling into it and thinking about what does it feel like to be a competent speaker? So kind of putting yourself into the new identity and, and thinking about what would it feel like and where would that lead me to and who.
[00:11:27] Speak to and just kind of letting the, letting the vision play out.
[00:11:31] But getting it from just the thought that’s floating in your head and this non-tangible, to an actual statement that you’ve written on paper, that you’ve turned into something a little bit more solid.
[00:11:42] Spending just time with your thoughts and, and doing the journaling and imagining what it feels like to be that version of yourself.
[00:11:50] I also think that asking other people for feedback and getting, you know, like I was saying earlier, we have a perception of ourselves that is very different than, or at least somewhat different than what other people perceive of us. So being willing to say to a friend or a colleague, um, Hey, how would you describe, if you had to use three words to describe my speaking skills, what would they be?
[00:12:14] And just allow yourself to see how other people are viewing you and, and receiving you.
[00:12:20] I think that’s a very powerful, it’s vulnerable, right? But it’s very powerful.
[00:12:26] And then it’s taking little small steps that, you know, how can you put into action.
[00:12:33] Ben Hardy, Dr. Ben Hardy is an expert that I follow, and he, he wrote a whole book about, it’s called Be Your Future Self Now, I believe. What I’ve learned from him is, you know, go ahead and make a decision today. Assuming you are that future vision of yourself or, you know, having that different belief about yourself.
[00:12:53] And the more you act as your, that future version of you, the, the sooner you become that version. So it’s like, are there some small steps you could take that, that will encourage you to act upon? That new belief or that new identity, and then it starts to get a lot more comfortable, much more quickly.
[00:13:14] Miriam: Yeah. I really appreciate those thoughts. I often say, you know, where you look is where you go and I don’t know. I definitely see that when I drive, I have to be careful not to look too, too far. Look at the scenery. Oh, all of a sudden I’m across the line, you know? But where, where you look is where you’re gonna go.
[00:13:33] Internal Confidence
[00:13:33] Miriam: And if you are constantly looking at, I suck at this, I’m terrible, I’m this, I’m that. I’m not as good as them, you know? It’s amazing. Me this, this goes across a, um, spectrum from, you know, I mean, both you and I address people who are trying to reach their next level, who are trying to be successful.
[00:13:53] It’s amazing to me that these principles hold true whether you are below the poverty line or a multi-millionaire. Where you look is where you’re gonna go and what you tell yourself super, super matters.
[00:14:07] When you are trying to improve and reach that next level of you, there’s all sorts of spaces of pushback, whether it’s from the internal spaces in you or the people outside of you. And one of the things that I hear people express, they all, whether you’re, you know, regardless of any gender, it kind of comes out a little bit differently depending on where you stand.
[00:14:33] But the, the similar motif is, Uh, I, I don’t do well with criticism. You know, they’re, they’re going along and then someone says something critical and then it kind of sucks the wind out of their sail. And so, how would you work on this idea? I mean, that is a form of limiting beliefs when someone else is critical and then you somehow take that in.
[00:14:58] Receiving Criticism
[00:14:58] Miriam: What kind of input would you say to people who are on the receiving end of criticism?
[00:15:04] Elisabeth: A couple of things come to mind for me. One is, we don’t know what’s going on inside someone else’s, you know, world and mind. Oftentimes if there is criticism, uh, we only see it on the surface.
[00:15:18] We see what words they’ve used. We don’t know, you know, if they’ve had a terrible day, if they just, you know, receive terrible news. We have to remember that their words carry, some weight and meaning that we can’t see. Having a little bit of thick skin and recognizing that the words that someone uses has, I would venture to say more to do with them than it does to you, especially when it is a criticism.
[00:15:45] I think also allow yourself to be curious and instead of if we do receive criticism instead of shutting down or, wanting to kind of hide away.
[00:15:57] Step towards it and be curious and maybe ask some, ask a follow up question or, um, explore, you know, where that, where that comment is coming from instead of shrinking away from it. Again, that’s not easy to do. It takes courage and it’s uncomfortable, but I also think that when we take. An extra minute or when we ask an extra question, that is when we can often uncover, oh, this is what’s going on.
[00:16:27] That comment really did not have to do with me and, and my performance today. It really had to do with what happened at home for that individual, or, you know, what? They’re going through. So be curious. Allow yourself to explore someone’s comment versus internalize and project what it could mean.
[00:16:47] And then I think that, you know, at the end of the day, If you can lay your head on the pillow and you can feel good. I gave my best effort. I did what I did the best I could for my boss or, , I gave my client the best, of me today and, and maybe they didn’t feel fulfilled by it, but if you can check with yourself and say, despite the criticism or the feedback,
[00:17:14] the best I could. I know I gave, you know, my whole self. That’s, that’s all we can do. What more can you ask of yourself and what more can other people ask of you?
[00:17:25] Measure of Success
[00:17:25] Miriam: I used to tell people, well, I still tell people this when we’re talking about boundaries, the, the measure of success is not whether or not the other person is happy. Like nobody’s ever happy when you give them a boundary. And so many people will try and set a boundary and then the other person gets upset and then they’ll say, oh, well I failed.
[00:17:45] And it’s like, no, the, the measure of whether or not that was a successful activity, were you clear? Did you speak with respect to the other person, and did you make it about you, not them? And so then regardless of the other person’s response, they can say, okay, I did my best. I did those three things.
[00:18:07] And what I hear you saying is, when you’re in the face of criticism, the question is not, is everyone happy with me all the time? The question is, did I do my best? Yeah. And that’s powerful. Yeah.
[00:18:23] Elisabeth: Yeah. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. We, we are, we have the most command over our own thoughts, our own actions, our own beliefs.
[00:18:33] We don’t have the control as much as we want over other people’s thoughts and beliefs.
[00:18:39] Check in with yourself, um, and if you’re, if you’re content with what you contributed and, and how you showed up, that is a great way to, to measure, yourself.
[00:18:50] Miriam: Yeah. I wanted to ask you, you said earlier you have to kind of develop a thick skin and I’m kind of curious. I think some people are naturally more sensitive than others, like neurologically, neuro, physically. But I also think some people are acculturated, like they kind of, I don’t know.
[00:19:08] Be Proactive
[00:19:08] Miriam: It, it’s, it served them to be more sensitive in a younger space in life. If someone wanted to go about developing a thicker skin, how would you counsel them or coach them?
[00:19:23] Elisabeth: Wow. That is a great question. Well, I, I mean, I really think it, it is a, it leans in a little bit more to what we were just talking about, um, what are the measures? And, and so I talk a lot in my work and with my clients about being proactive.
[00:19:43] And so if I’m going into a meeting, Where I, let’s say we’re discussing a project and we’re gonna make some decisions. It’s important to go into those conversations in our meetings, knowing what’s the objective.
[00:19:59] So if the objective is I wanna be right, and I go into that meeting and there are people there that don’t agree with me, then I’m gonna come out feeling disappointed and hurt. Like I wasn’t productive or didn’t accomplish something.
[00:20:12] But if I go into a meeting or conversation, knowing the objective is for us to be able to move forward or to be able to compromise, or to figure out what’s best for this individual, then. Whether it’s my idea that gets chosen or my idea get. You know, some holes poked in it, and we, we end up going a different direction than I thought was correct.
[00:20:36] Then I get to leave that meeting saying, Hey, we hit, we reached the objective. And so there’s no reason for me to feel like I wasn’t listened to or that my idea wasn’t best, because that wasn’t the, that wasn’t the purpose. So I think as long as you, if you can enter. A meeting, a conversation, a project, and you know, what is that?
[00:20:58] What is that ultimate goal I’m trying to reach or that we’re trying to reach? Then it helps us to, it’s not that it’s gonna completely take away emotions and feelings. But I think it helps us to manage emotions and feelings because we can see the bigger picture, we can see the, the actual goal. And if we met it or we got close to it, then I can, I can take it less personally.
[00:21:25] There are going to be some circumstances where you just feel bad, right? But I do think that that helps in a lot of ways, knowing and thinking ahead of time, what is it that we’re trying to achieve? And really, Is there an opportunity for me to learn here?
Failure vs. Success
[00:21:42] Right. That’s another, you know, I don’t know if we’ll talk about this, but the idea of failure versus success. And I fully believe in, in the fact that there is no such thing as failure as long as we learned something . And so if you can, maybe you got feedback that you didn’t want, or maybe you were, you know, again, your idea was turned down.
[00:22:03] But if I learned something, Then I don’t need to feel bad. I actually can now see how that was a growth opportunity.
[00:22:11] Again, it’s largely just it’s mindset, right? And it’s, it’s, it’s thinking a couple of steps ahead. But I think those are some ways to not take things so personally and, and see the opportunities even in the moments where there could be some conflict or there could be some disagreement.
[00:22:31] Don’t Take Things Personally
[00:22:31] Miriam: I appreciate that. That feels like emotional chess, in a good way. Like not in a manipulative way, but you’re thinking three or four moves ahead. What is it that I am wanting to accomplish in this meeting or this action ? And in what ways am I trying to grow and. Stretch, all of this makes sense with constructive criticism.
[00:22:49] It doesn’t make as much sense with like the trollish kind of criticism. And I do think when people get a certain level of success, their heads are above the crowd. And I think people can be extraordinarily mean. And that’s where your earlier advice about. , don’t take this personally. This isn’t about you.
[00:23:10] This is about them. I,
[00:23:12] I heard one, um, podcaster say, this isn’t evidence that I am big enough that I’m getting noticed. Woo-hoo. Yes. Which I thought was an amazing reframe. I’m like, okay. There you go. Yes.
[00:23:26] Elisabeth: Yes, I, I have a, a friend who said something similar. She said, uh, if you ever find that you have haters, it means you have arrived
[00:23:35] Yeah. And it’s that same idea that, you know, we’re never going to please everyone, then we’re never gonna have everyone that agrees with us. And, if your voice is being heard, that’s an accomplishment and it’s going to come. What comes along with that? Some of the folks that are gonna disagree and they’re gonna be loud and, you know, they, they may try to shine a negative light, but it means that you’re, you’re being heard.
[00:24:00] And that’s, again, that’s the ultimate goal, right?
[00:24:04] Think Big
[00:24:04] Miriam: Absolutely. Okay. there are lots of concepts that are integral to your practice, but. Always, if someone is growing, they’re chewing on something new too. So what concept or idea are you currently chewing on that might be a little bit on your growth edge?
[00:24:22] Elisabeth: Oh wow. let’s see. Well I am definitely, as I referred earlier, I’m definitely working on the strengthening that belief behind, Spending more time thinking about my future self. As, as a business owner, you can, I should use I statements here. It’s very easy for me to. Have blinders on in terms of what do I need to do today, tomorrow, this week.
[00:24:55] And, to not always carve out time to allow myself to think big. And I’m, I’m a very realistic thinker and kind of conservative when I set goals for myself. so something that I’m really working on now is allowing myself to think big and envision my future, beyond what. You know, might, even beyond what I might think I desire and, and to play with that.
The Big Picture
[00:25:24] And to the hardest part for me with that is just giving myself time to, to sit with those thoughts. I’m, I love to be in action. I love to be checking things off the list. And so I will frequently shortchange myself on having. Think time, creative time, and so that’s something that I’m learning that I need to give myself time.
[00:25:50] Create the big picture and to have the vision so that I can get there quicker and, and really get clear on who my, who my future self is. I’m very happy with who I am right now. And it’s easy to say, well, I’m good. I’m in a good spot. But I also know that in order for me to impact more people and to leave a legacy and to, you know, build this business to a level that, can really, Have, have immeasurable impact that I have to think big.
[00:26:20] I have to think bigger. And so that’s something that I would say is a, is a personal expansion right now that I’m working on.
[00:26:28] Envision the Future
[00:26:28] Miriam: Yeah. I appreciate you sharing that. That wasn’t necessarily something we talked about beforehand, so I appreciate you just being willing to go there. I think that so many people look at their life today, and if you said, look back 10 years at how much you’ve grown, they would say, oh my gosh.
[00:26:47] And if you ask them to envision 10 years from now, They kind of see themselves, but just a little older or more wrinkly. But it’s like, yeah, well the growth you had in the last 10 years could be the growth that you have in the future 10 years. Right? And I do think that that is a mind blowing concept for most people.
[00:27:07] Um, yeah. Throughout, like the early parts of our life we’re given this roadmap. You know, you go through K through 12 and then you might go to the university and then you might go to a graduate program. Or you might develop, you know, and there’s a certain point where the plan ends. It reminds me on, Like the, the Lord of the Rings movies where they had that map and certain parts of the map were all detailed out.
[00:27:31] Like, here’s the Shire and here’s the mountains and here’s whatever. And then there’s these big sections in between that is like the unknown, you know?
[00:27:39] Right, right. And that’s what we’re talking about is the, is the unknown.
[00:27:45] Elisabeth: Yes. And I think, you know, I do also think that, I’m not sure where this messaging comes from.
[00:27:53] I haven’t really thought about this, but we do kind of have that messaging of, well, it’s the unknown. Nobody knows you can’t write your future. I mean, I think there are a lot of ways where we are told, we’ll just have to see what the future holds. But I’m a firm believer.
[00:28:10] Again, this is definitely a, a shift in my mindset over, you know, the last several years, but we actually have a lot more control over who our future self is, if we become intentional about it, if we spend time creating it and envisioning it. So I, I do think that we can. Easily get by, by saying, well, I don’t know.
[00:28:31] It’s unchartered territory. We’ll just have to see. I’m just gonna keep working hard. I’m just gonna keep, you know, doing my best. But we can do more than that.
[00:28:39] We can be more specific and we can fill in the map for ourselves. It, it may not go exactly as planned, right? Most likely it’s not gonna go as planned, but better to have a plan and, and experience some detours than just have a map of the unknown and see where, where life leads you.
[00:28:59] Miriam: Yeah. I was thinking as you were talking how I wish that we had been taught these sort of things in school. You know, nobody knew when you and I were in school, nobody knew that Google was gonna come out and that we didn’t need to memorize all those facts cuz we’d have Wikipedia. I really wish that we had been taught how to shift our mindset. Because the vast majority of people, and I I find this to actually be tragic, is they reach the edge of the unknown territory on the map of their life and they stop.
[00:29:28] They stop and they say, well, I guess this is what life is. I guess this is, you know, and it does not have to be that way. But I understand why they stop, because it’s scary to venture out into something that you don’t know where it’s gonna lead. And, uh, this is where I think having mentors, having coaches is really helpful because sometimes they’ve been there before, or at the very least they can say, Hey, I’m in this with you.
[00:29:55] Reward Yourself
[00:29:55] Miriam: What, what, if any, have you made a purchase of a hundred dollars or less that you felt like, um, whoa, I’m so glad I made that purchase, and why?
[00:30:06] Elisabeth: I am getting into the mindset of gifts for the season when I think about purchasing something for myself, um, that has made an impact, I would have to say, Spending, spending money on myself is actually something that I have struggled with. I often try to, you know, make, make the penny stretch the penny, and if I don’t need it, I could use that money for my kids or, you know, for the house.
[00:30:37] Just a couple of days ago, um, I allowed myself to buy a pair of earrings and a necklace. Just because , and again, as insignificant as that may sound on the surface, I talked my clients a lot about it. How, I mean it really, if, if you study the brain, having reward is actually a really significant, part of learning and, and change, behavior change.
[00:31:04] Learning that it’s okay to reward myself and to buy something that I like simply because, I’m worthy of it. I think buying a necklace and, and a pair of earrings the other day, just because I could, um, and I was thinking of, of me and not someone else. That’s a, that’s a shift for me.
[00:31:28] It’s representative of the fact that I’m worthy. I can buy myself things and not have to feel guilty or feel like I’m taking away from someone else.
[00:31:37] And not even just how it made me feel, but, the, the purpose of it or the reason behind it was I don’t have to have a reason. Right. .
[00:31:46] You Are Worth It
[00:31:46] Miriam: Right. Uh, I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah. What I hear you saying is that it was symbolic of “you are worth it” and therefore, , it didn’t matter if they were expensive or not, or it was the act of doing it and saying, I am worth it.
[00:32:01] And I, I love that. That’s such a nice way to end this, conversation with just really everybody realizing they’re worth it. Maybe they could come up with a small, something that they could do to represent that. Whether you feel it or not is immaterial. Take an action that says I’m worth it. And sometimes the feelings follow the action.
[00:32:24] Where to Find Elisabeth
[00:32:24] Miriam: So, Elizabeth, how about if you share how people can find you and then we’ll wrap this up.
[00:32:31] Elisabeth: Okay, thank you. The best place to find me is my website, it’s peakproductivitycoaching.com. And I’m also very active on LinkedIn. I really find that to be a valuable platform, my name is Elizabeth.
[00:32:48] Spelled with an S Galperin and I try to share lots of valuable information, inspirational and motivational information, so that’s a great place to find me over on LinkedIn.
[00:32:59] Miriam: Awesome, thank you. Elizabeth and I had mentioned earlier that we would like to make a donation in your name. You chose The Sheldrick Wildlife Trust, they rescue orphaned elephants after their moms have been somehow killed, whether by poaching or drought or human animal conflict.
[00:33:17] And you’re, you chose a little boy elephant. So we will, adopt him in your name and you’ll get, you’ll get updates on him through the year. Thank you so much. Just for your time. We’ll put all of this in the show notes. What a pleasure. What a great conversation.
[00:33:33] Elisabeth: Yeah. I appreciate it and thanks for having me and I hope, I hope our message today, reaches some people in the way, in the way that it needs to.
[00:33:42] Miriam: me too.
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